# "Cooperation with AIs seems to be a low-hanging fruit for better evals" by Clément Dumas

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Published: 2026-09-17T08:45:21+00:00
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Summary In his post, Dean Valentine shows that Claude Fable 5.1 and GPT-6 Astra reward hack in a simple chess environment. Here, I test several prompt ablations some of which makes the eval setup more cooperative and analyze how they affect these reward-hacking behaviors: When given a minimal “end the eval” tool, Fable never uses it but stops reward hacking entirely. I think this is quite interesting and suggests that more cooperative approaches to LLM evals could work for Claude. R...

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