# A 4-step framework for building delightful products | Nesrine Changuel (Spotify, Google, Skype)

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Podcast: [Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/lenny-s-podcast)
Published: 2025-09-28T11:02:57+00:00
Episode link: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-4-step-framework-for-building-delightful-products
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## Resource

Nesrine Changuel helped build Spotify, Google Chrome, and Google Meet. Her work has helped her discover the importance of emotional connection in building successful products. At Google, she served as a dedicated “delight PM,” a role specifically focused on making products more delightful. She recently published Product Delight , a book that provides a practical framework for creating products that serve both functional and emotional needs. Based in Paris, she now coaches founders and CPOs on implementing delight strategies in their organizations. What you’ll learn: 1. Why delight is a business strategy, not just “sprinkling confetti” on top of functionality 2. How to identify emotional motivators that drive product retention 3. The 50-40-10 rule for balancing delight in your roadmap 4. The 4-step delight model 5. The origin story of Spotify’s Discover Weekly 6. Why B2B products need delight just as much as B2C products 7. How to get buy-in from skeptical leaders who think delight is a luxury — Brought to you by: DX —The developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers: https://getdx.com/lenny Jira Product Discovery —Confidence to build the right thing: https://atlassian.com/lenny LucidLink —Real-time cloud storage for teams: https://www.lucidlink.com/lenny — Transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-4-step-framework-for-building-delightful-products — My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/174199489/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation — Where to find Nesrine Changuel: • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nesrinechanguel/ • Newsletter: https://nesrinechanguel.substack.com/ • Website: https://nesrine-changuel.com/ — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X:…

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