# 660: How the Ultra Successful Think (and Why Most People Self-Sabotage) with Dr. Julie Gurner

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Published: 2026-02-02T05:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Many high achievers look successful on paper but feel constrained, overwhelmed, or quietly dissatisfied behind the scenes. In this episode, Ted sits down with executive performance psychologist Dr. Julie Gurner to explore why driven people struggle with stress, control, motivation, and identity as their responsibilities grow. The conversation breaks down how success can outpace personal growth—and what happens when it does. This episode offers a clear, grounded look at the psychological shifts required to sustain performance, health, and fulfillment at higher levels. Listen now! Today's Guest Dr. Julie Gurner Dr. Julie Gurner is a doctor psychology and executive performance coach who works with high-level executives, founders, and elite performers in tech, finance, and other high-stakes industries. She is the founder of Ultra Successful, a widely read newsletter focused on the psychology of exceptional performance, and has been described by The Wall Street Journal as a real-world counterpart to Wendy Rhoades from Billions. Connect to Dr. Julie Gurner Website: DrGurner.com Substack: DrGurner.substack.com X: @drgurner Instagram: @drgurner You'll learn: Why high performers often sabotage success as their identity lags behind growth How control, stress, and overload quietly limit cognitive performance The difference between productive stress and stress that undermines decision-making Why motivation, discipline, and grinding are often misunderstood at high levels What Ted and Julie discuss in this episode: 00:00 Introduction 00:42 Meet Dr. Julie Gurner: Performance Psychologist 02:13 High Performers and Fitness 03:40 The Role of Sleep in Performance 05:24 Cognitive Optimization for High Achievers 11:05 Managing Stress for Executives 14:01 Letting Go of Control to Succeed 14…

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