# Elevate 45: The L&D Leader: Navigating to Business Value – Laura Overton and Michelle Ockers

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Published: 2026-02-02T15:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Michelle Parry-Slater speaks with co-authors Michelle Ockers and Laura Overton about their book, The L&D Leader. Principles and practice for delivering business value , released in October 2025. They reflect on the collaboration behind the book, the research and evidence that informed it, and its practical relevance for learning professionals. The conversation offers insights into leading with impact in L&D and the mindset shifts needed to thrive in today's environment of continuous changing. Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/ elevate-45/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/

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