# 177: 2025 End of Year Review – Michelle Ockers and Michelle Parry-Slater

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Podcast: [Learning Uncut](https://stenobird.com/podcast/learning-uncut-430075)
Published: 2025-12-15T15:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://learninguncut.libsyn.com/177-2025-end-of-year-review-michelle-ockers-and-michelle-parry-slater
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## Resource

In this year-in-review episode, Michelle Ockers and Michelle Parry-Slater reflect on 2025 through the lens of Learning Uncut. They discuss professional highlights, patterns emerging across the podcast's case studies, and what the year revealed about relevance, value and the human role in L&D. The conversation explores learning culture, co-design, learner agency and the normalisation of AI, alongside reflections on community, lived experience and the evolution of the podcast itself. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/177/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/

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