# 171: AITD L&D Capability Framework – Ben Campbell and Lisa Elias

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Published: 2025-09-22T15:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Michelle Ockers is joined by Ben Campbell, CEO of the Australian Institute of Training and Development, and organisational capability expert Lisa Elias to discuss the development of AITD's first-ever L&D Capability Framework. In addition to being our podcast host, Michelle was the Project Lead on this community-driven initiative, and offers insight into how the project came to life, its collaborative design process, and what it offers the Australian L&D profession. The trio explores the framework's purpose, structure and practical applications for individuals, teams and organisations. Learn how it establishes a common language for capability and raises the bar for L&D practice across the country. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/171/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/

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