# 167: Inside the Design of a Learning Design Qualification – Keith Heggart

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Published: 2025-04-21T16:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Keith Heggart from the University of Technology Sydney joins Michelle Ockers to discuss the creation of the Graduate Certificate in Learning Design. He takes us behind the scenes of the design process—how he spent months consulting with industry experts, developing learner personas, and challenging traditional university structures to create a program that is fast-paced, practical, and immediately useful. Keith also shares key insights on the growing demand for learning design expertise, the critical role of communication in the field, and why the divide between corporate and higher education learning design needs to be bridged. Host: Michelle Ockers Transcript and related resources: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/167/ Podcast information and more episodes: https://learninguncut.global/podcast/

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