# Episode 297: Stop Accepting “That’s Just the Way It Is”

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Published: 2026-09-06T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What happens when growth doesn’t solve your problems—but actually makes them bigger? In Episode 297 of Leaning Into Leadership, Dr. Darrin Peppard sits down with entrepreneur, Marine veteran, and business leader Ron Nussbaum for a conversation about entrepreneurship, problem solving, challenging the status quo, and what it really takes to build something that matters. Ron shares the story behind BuilderComs and the realization that changed the way he thought about growth: if you scale your organization without solving the problems already inside it, you’re simply scaling those problems too. That lesson reaches far beyond entrepreneurship. Darrin and Ron explore why leaders sometimes become comfortable tolerating things that are merely “okay,” why challenging the status quo doesn’t mean changing everything, and why one of the most important questions a leader can ask is, “What problem are we actually trying to solve?” Ron also shares the thinking behind Ask a Shop Owner, a platform designed to give small business owners actionable guidance and accountability when they encounter real-world business challenges. The conversation closes with an important reality about entrepreneurship and leadership: every meaningful pursuit involves trade-offs. The goal isn’t to avoid them. It’s to intentionally choose the trade-offs that move you toward the life, organization, and outcomes you actually want. In this episode: Why leaders need to stop scaling problems Challenging “that’s just the way we’ve always done it” Finding the real problem before searching for solutions Why growth can magnify existing organizational weaknesses Turning experience and knowledge into actionable plans The role accountability plays in creating results Why entrepreneurship requires uncomfortable trade-offs…

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