# Episode 324: Radical Unavailability - An Interview with michael Forney

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Podcast: [Leading From Alignment](https://stenobird.com/podcast/leading-from-alignment-959305)
Published: 2026-02-24T11:01:05+00:00
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## Resource

Pastors, ever feel like your phone has a spiritual gift for ringing at the worst possible moment? In this episode, we dive into the holy art of becoming—brace yourself—radically unavailable. Yes, we’re talking about saying “no,” ignoring notifications, and trusting that the Kingdom of God will not collapse if you take a nap. Join us as we talk with Michael Forney, COO of the Free Methodist Church USA. Together we explore how stepping away (without guilt) might just save your sanity, your family, and your ministry.

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