# Episode 217: A Proactive Approach

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Podcast: [Leading and Learning Through Safety](https://stenobird.com/podcast/leading-and-learning-through-safety-14553)
Published: 2026-09-25T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Leading and Learning Through Safety, Dr. Mark French challenges a common approach to measuring safety performance: relying on OSHA recordable injuries and other lagging indicators as primary measures of success. Using the simple example of water on the floor, Mark explains how the same hazard can produce dramatically different outcomes. One person may walk through the water without incident, another may nearly fall, another may suffer a minor injury, and another could exper...

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