# Episode 183: Going Beyond

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Podcast: [Leading and Learning Through Safety](https://stenobird.com/podcast/leading-and-learning-through-safety-14553)
Published: 2025-07-11T14:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of the Leading and Learning Through Safety podcast, Dr. Mark French explores the contrast between managing people the easy way versus the right way. Sparked by a discussion with a fellow safety professional and the media’s coverage of the Texas floods, Mark reflects on how safety failures are often sensationalized, leading to blame instead of meaningful solutions. He argues that while it’s easy to point fingers and assign fault, true leadership requires deeper examination of s...

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