# A Conversation with Dr. Nneka J. McGee, Researcher and Innovative Educator

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Podcast: [Leaders Learning From Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-learning-from-leaders-6521294)
Published: 2026-02-02T17:04:29+00:00
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Executive Summary In this episode of Leaders Learning from Leaders, host Steve Barkley speaks with Dr. Nneka J. McGee, a leading voice at the intersection of artificial intelligence (AI) and K–12 education. Dr. McGee shares her journey into AI, beginning with early exposure to computer science and culminating in her doctoral research on the role of AI in future-ready teaching and learning. She highlights the longstanding presence of AI in education while emphasizing the disruptive impact of today's generative technologies. The conversation explores the current tension in schools between resistance and adoption of AI, underscoring the importance of AI literacy, practical implementation strategies, and clear policy guidance. Dr. McGee introduces the “CLIP” framework: Community, Literacy, Implementation, and Policy, as a lens for thoughtful AI integration. She encourages leaders to begin with foundational questions such as “Is it necessary?” and stresses the superintendent's role in assessing community readiness, building support, and setting realistic timelines. Access and cultural relevance are central to Dr. McGee’s message. She cautions that device availability does not guarantee meaningful access, emphasizing the importance of culturally responsive AI outputs and data quality. The discussion also covers deep fakes, critical thinking, and student identity. Dr. McGee advocates for oral discourse, questioning, and media literacy as essential tools. She affirms that human connection remains a vital leadership trait that AI cannot replicate, especially when guiding schools through complexity. Dr. McGee concludes with a reminder to educational leaders that it is acceptable to pause and reflect, but not to remain idle. She calls for deliberate, research-informed engagement…

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