# Surviving Estrangement

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Podcast: [Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/leaders-lead-even-when-it-hurts-4040372)
Published: 2026-03-20T07:16:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tony-taylor68/episodes/Surviving-Estrangement-e3gltcr
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## Resource

I have watched estrangement hit like a full-body shock, not just a sad season. I have felt that disbelief where it seems like I am in the twilight zone, replaying every conversation, asking what I did, and getting nothing but silence back. In this conversation, I sit with Nancy McCartney as she explains why estrangement feels so cruel, why rumination starts, and how walking on eggshells trains the nervous system to stay on high alert. I keep coming back to one truth that changed how I move through this: awareness is the first act of liberation. You will leave with a clearer way to stop the loop and start moving again. Subscribe to Leaders Lead and leave a 5 star review . It helps the right people find the show. Listen here : leadersleadthepodcast.com Community Join the Leaders Lead Community : flowcode.com/p/cSHVgIMAa?fc=0 Join for support grounded conversation and a place to connect without the online noise while you navigate real life. Resources National Mental Health Support Lines: 988 or 1 800 273 8255 Podcast website: leadersleadthepodcast.com Leaders Lead Community: flowcode.com/p/cSHVgIMAa?fc=0

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