# Episode 93 | Turning Pain Into Purpose with Preston Zeller

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Published: 2026-04-25T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this powerful and deeply reflective conversation, Brandi Kelly sits down with Preston Zeller to explore how grief, creativity, and faith intersect to shape leadership and purpose. The conversation expands into faith, resilience, and technology as Preston introduces Psalm Log , an AI-powered biblical journaling and guidance app designed to help believers engage Scripture in a more personal, reflective, and accessible way. Together, Brandi and Preston unpack what it means to lead through uncertainty, how to cultivate emotional and spiritual resilience, and why self-awareness is foundational for strong leadership. Key Takeaways Grief can a catalyst for purpose when processed through creativity and reflection instead of avoidance. Leadership begins with self-leadership —you cannot lead others well without first leading yourself well. Creative expression can unlock healing that logic alone cannot reach. Faith and discipline help anchor resilience in seasons of uncertainty and pressure. AI can be a tool for spiritual reflection when used with discernment, not replacement of personal faith. Hope is built through focus on what you can control —your thoughts, actions, and obedience in the present moment. Growth often comes through discomfort and refinement , not ease or certainty. Resources & Links Psalm Log (AI Biblical Journaling App): https://psalmlog.com/ The Art of Grieving Documentary - Available on Amazon Prime Video and Apple TV: https://theartofgrievingfilm.com/ Connect with Preston Zeller: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonzeller/ Conversari Press - Legacy Partner of the Lead with HOPE Podcast: https://www.conversaripress.com/ Spark HOPE Edu: https://sparkhopeedu.com Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Guest Credibility 00:56 Preston’s Personal Story and Loss of B…

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