# I Fight AI Fraud with Military Tactics (Socure President, Matt Thompson)

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Published: 2026-05-20T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://www.benfanning.com/theceosessions/matt-thompson
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## Resource

Most leaders are preparing for the wrong enemy. Matt Thompson, President and Chief Commercial Officer at Socure, is helping lead the fight—where machine identities already outnumber humans 80 to 1. And fraud isn’t just growing… it’s evolving faster than most businesses can keep up. Most leaders are still treating this like a tech problem. It’s not. It’s truly a strategy problem. The adversary is decentralized, fast-moving, and increasingly powered by AI. After spending over a decade in Army Special Operations under Stanley McChrystal, Matt is now applying those same battlefield-tested tactics to fight this new kind of enemy. Which means the old playbook—protect the front door and call it a day—is already outdated. In this conversation, we break down: Why fraud now behaves like a networked enemy. What leaders are getting wrong about defending their organizations. And how battlefield-tested thinking is being used to fight it at scale. So the real question for leaders is: Can your team and organization adapt faster than the threats evolving around it? ----- Connect with the Host, #1 bestselling author Ben Fanning Speaking and Training inquires Subscribe to my Youtube channel LinkedIn Instagram Twitter

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