# In Conversation with Jessie Sams

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Podcast: [Lead a Horse to Water](https://stenobird.com/podcast/lead-a-horse-to-water-3058987)
Published: 2024-10-10T06:26:17+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/trudi-dempsey/episodes/In-Conversation-with-Jessie-Sams-e2pbb0p
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## Resource

In this episode Jessie Sams and I finally got around to talking to her about her life and work with horses and other topics like a biopsychosocial model, the 3 C's of communication, choice and consent (with Emily Kieson) , compassion for human horse carers and lots more. Jessie Sams is an animal behaviour consultant with a degree in Animal Behaviour and Welfare Science from the University of Greenwich. She’s currently a Provisional member with the APBC and is working towards her certification as a Clinical Animal Behaviourist. Jessie has a wealth of experience with horses, having worked with showjumpers and racehorses, and now focuses on using consent-based approaches and trauma-informed care to improve animal-human relationships. You can find Jessie on https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100088499575807 and her and Emily Kieson's work at https://equineintl.org/ https://medwinpublishers.com/IZAB/a-preliminary-investigation-of-preferred-affiliative-interactions-within-and-between-select-bonded-pairs-of-horses-a-first-look-at-equine-love-languages.pdfhttps://medwinpublishers.com/IZAB/a-preliminary-investigation-of-preferred-affiliative-interactions-within-and-between-select-bonded-pairs-of-horses-a-first-look-at-equine-love-languages.pdf

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