# [full uncut conversation] PRIDE:  Sarah Schulman on How to Build Solidarity

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Published: 2026-06-01T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This month on Laura Flanders and Friends, we’re revisiting conversations around solidarity, kinship and what it means to be human. This week we explore 'The Fantasy and Necessity of Solidarity’, with author and activist Sarah Schulman, who shares what she’s learned from AIDS activism to Palestine. Description: What is “solidarity” and what does it require? Giving up on perfection, for one thing, says Sarah Schulman, author of “Conflict is Not Abuse,” and so much more. Award-winning writer, teacher, playwright and activist, Schulman’s latest book is “The Fantasy and Necessity of Solidarity”, in which she reflects on years of experiments and learning, from the 1980s to today. “Right now we're in the middle of a cataclysm of fascism and there's no quick fix. And we have to understand that the idea that you can go in and just fix it is a supremacy concept.” - Sarah Schulman Guest: Sarah Schulman: Writer & AIDS Historian; Author, The Fantasy and Necessity of Solidarity - Watch the episode released on our YouTube channel; PBS World Channel Sundays at 11:30am ET, and on over 300 public stations across the country (check your listings) and airing on community radio & available as a podcast. - Full Conversation Release: While our weekly shows are edited to time for broadcast on Public TV and community radio, we offer to our members and podcast subscribers the full uncut conversation. These audio exclusives are made possible thanks to our member supporters. Become a sustaining member or make it monthly. All the details are at: https://LauraFlanders.org/Donate

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