# 433: On Churches of Legitimacy & Churches of Transformation

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Podcast: [Latter Day Struggles](https://stenobird.com/podcast/latter-day-struggles-5189030)
Published: 2026-05-11T15:00:00+00:00
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Send us a Positive Review! Series Title: Religion IS Political [Part III of VII] In this episode Val & Nathan go more "macro" and explain how churches (just like human beings and human civilizations) go through stages of development and that a church will choose its stances of "significant moral consequence" accordingly. In short, if a church is focused on earlier stage legitimacy--its all about preserving its favorite form(s) of dominator hierarchy. If the church has m...

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