# 191. A Tale of Two Conflicts | Scopes, Teilhard, and 100 Years of Hindsight

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Podcast: [Language of God](https://stenobird.com/podcast/language-of-god-423722)
Published: 2025-07-17T08:05:00+00:00
Episode link: https://biologos.org/podcast-episodes/a-tale-of-two-conflicts-scopes-teilhard-and-100-years-of-hindsight
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In July of 1925, two significant dramas unfolded on different continents—the Scopes “Monkey” Trial in Tennessee and the censure of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin in France— shaping the enduring conversation between science and faith. On the surface, these 1925 events couldn't be more different – one a public courtroom showdown, the other a hushed ecclesiastical reprimand. Yet, they both tackled the same fundamental question: What happens when new scientific ideas confront traditional beliefs, particularly concerning evolution? Jim Stump—with the help of guests Janet Kellogg Ray and John Haught—reflects on these pivotal moments from a century ago, exploring their lasting impact on the science and faith dialogue, the dangers of false dichotomies, the importance of epistemic humility, and the tension between institutional caution and prophetic imagination.

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