# #447 The Heart of Jesus w/ Aaron Abke

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Podcast: [Kyle Kingsbury Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kyle-kingsbury-podcast-546208)
Published: 2026-03-04T19:56:08+00:00
Episode link: https://kylekingsburypodcast.podbean.com/e/447-the-heart-of-jesus-w-aaron-abke/
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## Resource

Kyle introduces guest Aaron Abke of the Jesus Way podcast, praising his focus on what Jesus taught beyond church dogma and his knowledge of Rudolf Steiner and the Law of One. After bonding over Bay Area roots and King’s Academy connections, Aaron shares his upbringing in a charismatic megachurch with supernatural experiences, then describes disillusionment at a legalistic church where women required “covering,” which led him to question biblical infallibility and Paul’s teachings versus Jesus’. He left Christianity, studied Alan Watts, Zen, Hinduism, and non-duality for years, but returned to Jesus’ “red letters” when those paths didn’t end suffering, emphasizing love, forgiveness, and deeds as salvation from present suffering. They discuss NDEs, plant medicine, service-to-others vs service-to-self, early Nazarene “Two Ways” teachings, gnosticism, the Gospel of Thomas’ authenticity, reincarnation of the Christ principle, and Aaron’s offerings through the Jesus Way podcast and 4D University. Connect with Aaron here: Instagram 4D University From Kyle: The Community is coming! Click here to learn more Our Sponsors: Let’s level up your nicotine routine with Lucy. Go to Lucy.co/KKP and use promo code (KKP) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy offers FREE SHIPPING and has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind Connect with Kyle: I'm back on Instagram, come say hey @kylekingsbu Twitter: @kingsbu Our Farm Initiative: @gardenersofeden.earth Odysee: odysee.com/@KyleKingsburypod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@Kyle-Kingsbury Kyle's Website: www.kingsbu.com - Gardeners of Eden site If you enjoyed this podcast, please subscribe & leave a 5-star review with your thoughts!

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