# Kontrarian Korner #114 - E.M. Burlingame & Veles

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Published: 2026-05-28T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Yesterday I had E.M. Burlingame and Veles from Rogue News back on the podcast for our first three way conversation, and hopefully the first of many. We talked about a bunch of topics, but we spent most of our time on the complex layers of the AI and data center boom, and how that ties into the complex layers of the elites. You can find E.M.’s Substack below, but he’s also worth a follow on Twitter . You can find Veles on Rogue News when he makes his appearances over there. Podcast Summary * How the data center buildout is a resource grab for land and water rights. * The parallels this current investment cycle has to the dotcom bubble and other CAPEX booms of the past. * The CIA and intelligence ties to large tech companies including Google and Meta. * How the AI and data center buildout is masking underlying economic issues. * How the data center push might be a disguise to improve America’s crumbling infrastructure. * The hyperfinancialization of the economy and markets, and why private equity should be outlawed. * The possibility of muddling through without crashing the economic and financial system. * How immigration has distorted the system, and the number of people that need to be removed from the country. * Why noblesse oblige is missing from our elite class, and how the US was setup as a self-ruling feudal system. * The different layers of the elite class, and why they are fighting today. Kontrarian Korner is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.kontrariankorner.com/subscribe

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