# S04E05 - Dr. Kimberly Nix Berens on Applying the Science of Behaviour and Precision Teaching to Accelerate Learning

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Published: 2026-03-28T22:04:10+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of the Knowledge for Teachers podcast we explore how to transform classroom outcomes using the science of behaviour. Brendan Lee chats with Dr. Kimberley Nix Berens, a scientist-practitioner and the founder of Fit Learning. Together, they unpack the role of behaviour science in education and why observable, measurable learning matters. You’ll hear why fluency—not just accuracy—is the true indicator of mastery, how precision teaching can transform the way we assess and respond to students, and why many common approaches to instruction fall short of producing lasting outcomes. Kim also challenges some widely held assumptions, including the limits of discovery learning and the over-reliance on grades as meaningful measures of progress. If you’re looking for practical, research-informed ways to sharpen your teaching and better support every learner, this episode offers a powerful new lens. Resources mentioned: https://fitlearning.com/ Blindspots by Kimberly Berens The Technology of Teaching by B.F. Skinner Theory of Instruction by Sigfried Engelman and Doug Carnine The Standard Celeration Chart The Morningside Model of Generative Instruction (Johnson, Street, Kieta and Robbins) Program of International Student Assessment (PISA) National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) FitLite (and the FitLite Literacy model) Scientist Educator Training Series You can connect with Kimberly: Twitter: @KimberlyBerens5 Instagram: @drkberens Linkedin Website: https://www.drkimberlyberens.com/ You can connect with Brendan: Twitter/X: @learnwithmrlee Facebook: @learningwithmrlee Linkedin: @brendan-lee-kft Website: learnwithlee.net Support the Knowledge for Teachers Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/KnowledgeforTeachersPodcast About Kimberly Kimberly Nix Berens, Ph.D., is…

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