# UNLOCKED: Trump's Big, Beautiful Ballroom (w/ Kate Wagner)

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Podcast: [Know Your Enemy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/know-your-enemy-592071)
Published: 2025-12-22T11:30:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3670

## Resource

We're unpaywalling our excellent conversation with Kate Wagner (of McMansion Hell) about Trump's White House ballroom project and the politics of architecture.

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