# #191 - Obbe Vermeij Interview On The GTA Trilogy, GTA VI, Rockstar And His Indie Game Plentiful..... Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/kiwi-talkz-5929956/191-obbe-vermeij-interview-on-the-gta-trilogy-gta-vi-rockstar-and-his-indie-game-plentiful Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/kiwi-talkz-5929956/191-obbe-vermeij-interview-on-the-gta-trilogy-gta-vi-rockstar-and-his-indie-game-plentiful.md Podcast: [Kiwi Talkz](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kiwi-talkz-5929956) Published: 2025-07-03T18:00:15+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/kiwi-talkz/2094543 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/175970/2094543/kiwi-talkz/2025_06_30_06_54_54_3ed86e2f-87be-4dec-b5ce-0ab4accb04e5.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/kiwi-talkz-5929956/episodes/191-obbe-vermeij-interview-on-the-gta-trilogy-gta-vi-rockstar-and-his-indie-game-plentiful Duration seconds: 3408 ## Resource Obbe Vermeij, a former technical director at Rockstar Games during GTA III to GTA IV, is now working on his indie game Plentiful, and the demo is out now here. #grandtheftauto #gta #rockstargames Plentiful Demo is here - https://store.steampowered.com/app/3044790/Plentiful/ SOCIAL MEDIA TWITTER - @ObbeVermeij BLUESKY - ‪@ obbevermeij.bsky.social ‬ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro 00:46 - GTA IV Design Document 01:20 - Working With The Designers On GTA On What’s Possible & Not Possible 02:15 - Gang Wars In San Andreas Was Very Difficult 04:05 - GTA Series Moved Away From Gameplay First To Story First 06:30 - Obbe’s Thoughts On GTA VI 2nd Trailer 07:23 - GTA VI Will Be 30FPS 08:39 - GTA III’s Success Caught Obbe By Surprise 09:50 - The Vibe At Rockstar When GTA III Kept Selling & Selling 11:34 - How 9/11 Affected GTA III 13:03 - The Houser Brothers 15:20 - How GTA An American Parody Game Was Made In Edinburgh 16:40 - What Obbe Worked On In The GTA Trilogy 18:10 - Obbe’s Role Decreased As Rockstar Got Bigger And Bigger 21:04 - GTA VI Is The Most Expensive Game Ever 22:03 - GTA VII Will Be Cheaper To Make Than GTA VI Due To AI 22:50 - AI’s Effects On Programmers/How AI Will Help Game Development 27:17 - Leslie Benzies/Mindseye 30:40 - Rockstar Were Great With Hiring Staff/Indie Games 32:00 - Obbe’s Indie Game Plentiful 37:02 - Prototyping To Show A Publisher/Obbe Loves Making Games 38:00 - Obbe Is Making Plentiful As A Solo Dev/Music 39:15 - Obbe Made A Museum App Called Guide App 40:28 - Obbe Misses The Rockstar Games Days/Rockstar North Has A Great Work Culture 43:28 - Q+A - What Were The Main Differences Developing GTA IV For PS3 & XBOX360 44:53 - Q+A - How Much Is The Product Different From The Start Till Release 46:37 - Q+A - Favourite Project & Career Highlig… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/kiwi-talkz-5929956/episodes/191-obbe-vermeij-interview-on-the-gta-trilogy-gta-vi-rockstar-and-his-indie-game-plentiful/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/kiwi-talkz-5929956/191-obbe-vermeij-interview-on-the-gta-trilogy-gta-vi-rockstar-and-his-indie-game-plentiful.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.