# Ep 212 The D*ath Threats From AA Members Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/ep-212-the-d-ath-threats-from-aa-members Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/ep-212-the-d-ath-threats-from-aa-members.md Podcast: [Kirsten Johnson Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631) Published: 2026-06-30T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/ Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/012634a1-1bcd-4ff7-8d62-97e8036feaa4.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/episodes/ep-212-the-d-ath-threats-from-aa-members Duration seconds: 1860 ## Resource Last week we explored some of the doomsday prophecies in AA's Big Book. This week we're diving deep into death threats that come from AA members directly. I do believe most of these people have good intentions and say that leaving will kill us because they actually believe it. The problem, of course, is that the fear AA instills in us isn't a fact. Leaving AA does not mean we are going to die, even if some do. Leaving AA and "graduating" recovery is something I believe should be celebrated. We finished our addiction recovery journey. This is great news. A huge victory in fact. Or some may decide to always have support. Also great. The point is that we have choice. Recovery is so individual. Timestamps: 00:00 AA Member Death Threats Intro 04:01 AA Member Threatened I'd Die 07:14 The Actual Comment 08:30 1. Leaving is equivalent to drinking again 09:15 2. Leaving means death 11:11 3. There are only two outcomes: stay in AA or die 12:08 4. Your judgment can't be trusted 14:43 5. The AA member knows your future 15:32 6. Your fate is already determined 16:40 7. Fear is an appropriate tool of persuasion 20:03 8. Staying doesn't lead to funerals 24:13 9. Survivorship bias in the funerals 27:01 Believing The Threats Traps Us πŸ”₯ Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources β†’ here 🧠 Brain optimization tools β†’ here ❀️‍πŸ”₯ If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back β†’ here Come vibe with me: Kirsten's Facebook Kirsten's Instagram Kirsten's TikTok πŸ“± My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) β†’ here πŸ’» Tools + software I use to run my business and create online β†’ here ⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care. πŸ’– Some links may be affiliate links. I o… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/episodes/ep-212-the-d-ath-threats-from-aa-members/transcription-requests` β€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/ep-212-the-d-ath-threats-from-aa-members.md` β€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.