# Ep 209 Thirty Rehabs, Leaving AA + Pioneering Modern Recovery β€” Justin's Story Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/ep-209-thirty-rehabs-leaving-aa-pioneering-modern-recovery-justin-s-story Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/ep-209-thirty-rehabs-leaving-aa-pioneering-modern-recovery-justin-s-story.md Podcast: [Kirsten Johnson Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631) Published: 2026-06-09T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.kirsten-johnson.com/ Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/33326346-68ee-4d37-929b-c8aeb9367bd6.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/episodes/ep-209-thirty-rehabs-leaving-aa-pioneering-modern-recovery-justin-s-story Duration seconds: 10288 ## Resource Justin had to leave 12 step after 17 years in order to get sober. He shares about people dying in AA, realizing it's a cult, and how Ibogaine is what ultimately got him sober. Now he runs a modern addiction detox clinic and is pioneering modern addiction recovery. Justin's Karity Clinic and TikTok Timestamps: 00:00 Intro Justin's Story 12:50 Ibogaine Treatment 18:04 Day He Left AA 21:12 DJ AM's Death + 12 Step 28:11 Relapse, Shame, Shunning 35:46 Addiction Recovery Is Outdated 50:33 Psychedelics Got Him Sober 57:17 "Your Part," Amends, R*pe 1:03:26 Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy + Modern Rehabs 1:15:40 Deprogramming Abstinence 1:25:28 Why Traditional Rehabs Fall Short 1:36:20 Psychedelics In Recovery, Predators, Narcissists 1:44:19 Psychedelics After AA Awakening 2:11:25 AA Trolls 2:17:29 K-holes, Ketamine, Healing 2:27:05 Drugs To Get Off Drugs? 2:31:58 Brainwashing Can Happen Fast πŸ”₯ Free Deprogram Course + leaving AA resources β†’ here 🧠 Brain optimization tools β†’ here ❀️‍πŸ”₯ If you’re ready to stop holding yourself back β†’ here Come vibe with me: Kirsten's Facebook Kirsten's Instagram Kirsten's TikTok πŸ“± My content creation setup (camera, mic, lighting, etc.) β†’ here πŸ’» Tools + software I use to run my business and create online β†’ here ⚠️ Disclaimer: I’m not a therapist, doctor, or licensed healthcare provider. Everything shared is for educational purposes only and not a substitute for professional care. πŸ’– Some links may be affiliate links. I only share what I genuinely use and love. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/episodes/ep-209-thirty-rehabs-leaving-aa-pioneering-modern-recovery-justin-s-story/transcription-requests` β€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/kirsten-johnson-podcast-6900631/ep-209-thirty-rehabs-leaving-aa-pioneering-modern-recovery-justin-s-story.md` β€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.