# Kids Ministry Collective Ep27 - Called or Confused? Your Calling vs. Identity vs. Vocation (Part 2)

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Podcast: [Kids Ministry Collective](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kids-ministry-collective-174994)
Published: 2026-04-05T14:33:37+00:00
Episode link: https://kidministrycollective.podbean.com/e/kids-ministry-collective-ep27-called-or-confused-your-calling-vs-identity-vs-vocation-part-2/
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Duration seconds: 2427

## Resource

In this episode of the KMC Collective Podcast, Tom, Cole, Vicki, and Ben continue their “Called or Confused” conversation, responding to a listener's question about whether being “called to ministry” applies only to pastors. They emphasize that every follower of Jesus shares the same calling to follow Christ, love God and others, and make disciples through the Great Commission, regardless of job or title. The team distinguishes calling from spiritual gifting and vocation, warning against overthinking calling, equating identity with a ministry role, or letting labels and titles define worth. Ben shares his burnout and transition out of church work into pest control and YouTube, describing how rediscovering identity as God’s child restored clarity and freedom. They encourage leaders to remain faithful, stay open-handed, and keep calling from twisting under cultural pressure.

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