# Ep 396 | Democracy Is a Fraud | Guest: Patrick Byrne

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Published: 2026-07-22T10:00:00+00:00
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If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it! This oft-repeated indictment of democracy, or at least the illusion of democracy, is gaining traction among a number of Americans, not least of which is Overstock.com founder Patrick Byrne, who sat down with Matt Kibbe at this year's FreedomFest conference in Las Vegas. Byrne claims that, as a former CIA asset, he has knowledge that the voting machines used in American elections are not secure and have in fact been used by American intelligence agencies to influence the outcome of elections, not just in this country, but in 72 others around the globe.

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