# Ep 380 | How Do We Get Out of Iran? | Guest: Dave DeCamp

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Podcast: [Kibbe on Liberty](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kibbe-on-liberty-687266)
Published: 2026-04-09T20:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

The U.S. has a history of starting messy wars in the Middle East without a clear exit strategy. By the time the Iraq and Afghanistan wars finally came to an end, there was no easy way for American troops to withdraw without making the situation on the ground worse than it already was. Matt Kibbe and Dave DeCamp, news editor at Antiwar.com, discuss the recent developments in the Iran war — including Trump’s threat to permanently end an entire civilization, the ensuing ceasefire agreement, and the almost immediate collapse of that deal — and question whether there is still a way for Donald Trump to swiftly end the conflict while saving face with voters.

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