# Ep 377 | There's No Easy Way Out of This War | Guest: Scott Horton

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Podcast: [Kibbe on Liberty](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kibbe-on-liberty-687266)
Published: 2026-03-18T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Three weeks into the Trump administration's war with Iran, the path toward a clean victory is looking narrower and narrower. And with an ever-shifting series of objectives, it's not even clear what such a victory would look like. Matt Kibbe is joined by Scott Horton, executive director of the Libertarian Institute, to discuss where the war goes from here and whether there is even a coherent strategy at play. After failing to enact meaningful regime change and with low public approval ratings for this military action, a best-case scenario would probably involve Trump simply declaring victory and bringing our troops home. However, Iran is unlikely to allow that resolution to happen and is likely to keep inflicting pain on American military bases as a deterrent to future bombings. The good news is that, as was demonstrated in 2013 with Barack Obama's abortive strikes on Syria, the American people have the power to influence foreign policy if they make their voices loud enough, especially on the eve of the midterm congressional elections.

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