# Matt Sharp - AI Adoption Needs Agility And Business Outcomes

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Published: 2026-06-22T12:15:13+00:00
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## Resource

AI adoption is no longer just an innovation project. It’s a business, security, and workforce transformation problem all at once. In this episode, Wil Klu sits down with Matt Sharp, CSO at Xactly and co-author of The CISO Evolution, to talk about how companies should approach AI adoption when the rules are still being written. They cover AI governance, cybersecurity risk, design partnerships, learning curves, small language models, token costs, and the growing pressure to turn AI experiments into real business outcomes. Key takeaways: • Why AI adoption requires agility, not fixed best practices • How CISOs can help secure fast-moving AI bets • Why teams need hands-on AI learning, even without production use • How token costs and prompt quality may change workforce value • Why private equity and investors are pushing AI toward measurable outcomes • How design partnerships can help security teams keep pace Follow The Keyboard Samurai for more conversations on cyber, AI, leadership, and the business side of technology. Find Matt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ciso-mba/ https://www.cisoevolution.com/ His book: https://www.amazon.com/CISO-Evolution... Co authored with ‪ Rock Lambros who was also on KBS: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1hC2q4dwvLqfJ65SHqqWdr?si=3GtedE4sRy6BCXteD2Bf-A

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