# Deep Dive with Jonathan Bijur on Creative Freedom

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Podcast: [Kelly Corrigan Wonders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kelly-corrigan-wonders-1318374)
Published: 2026-05-12T08:01:00+00:00
Episode link: http://www.kellycorrigan.com
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## Resource

Kids walk into Rediscover Center in Los Angeles with nothing but an idea and leave with something that will last a lifetime. Jonathan Bijur has spent decades figuring out what makes that possible — and what gets in the way. In the sixth episode of our Wired to Create series, he makes the case for the most counter-cultural idea in education right now: that children learn more when adults get out of the way. It turns out the hardest part isn't teaching the kids. This episode was made possible by a grant from the Walton Family Foundation. To learn more, please visit: ⁠waltonfamilyfoundation.org.⁠ To learn more about Rediscover Center visit: https://rediscovercenter.org/ To connect with Kelly and get a list of her weekly takeaways, join Kelly's free Substack. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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