# Episode 145: Daniel Lieberman - Direct Dopamine To Friends, Not Phones

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Podcast: [Keep Talking](https://stenobird.com/podcast/keep-talking-1331245)
Published: 2025-03-07T10:00:14+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3533

## Resource

Daniel Lieberman is a psychiatrist, the SVP of mental health at Hims & Hers, and the author of the best-selling book, The Molecule of More. ------------ Book Dan to do an interview or a meeting ------------ Keep Talking Substack Spotify Apple Podcasts Social media and all episodes ------------ Support via Venmo Support on Substack Support on Patreon ------------ (00:00) Intro (00:59) What would humans be without dopamine? (01:29) Donating dopamine to phones, not friends (03:58) What is dopamine? (07:53) What are the signs of someone with high dopamine? (11:56) How can high dopamine people live wisely? (18:50) Can workaholics change their insatiability? (22:22) "The modern devil is cheap dopamine" (28:58) What does a wise future look like re: smartphones? (31:37) Dopamine in relationships and love (38:46) Skills to develop to sustain long-term relationships (43:11) Are we on the cusp of a conservative cultural shift? (48:02) Modern dopamine and men in society (54:42) What advice does Daniel give to his sons? (57:14) What's next for Daniel?

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