# Episode 141: Anna Lembke - Dopamine Nation: Overcoming Modern Addictions

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Published: 2025-02-07T10:00:19+00:00
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## Resource

Anna Lembke is a psychiatrist, Chief of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Dual Diagnosis Clinic, and the author of "Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence." This is a rebroadcast of episode 35, from 2022. ------------ Book Dan to do an interview or a meeting ------------ Keep Talking Substack Spotify Apple Podcasts Social media and all episodes ------------ Support via Venmo Support on Substack Support on Patreon ------------ (00:00) Intro (00:57) Anna Lembke’s interest in studying addiction (04:34) Defining addiction and the "gremlin theory" of addiction (15:19) Characteristics of an addict (23:48) The stigma around addictions (26:46) Characteristics of a healthy person living today (33:50) The importance and role of struggle in a good life (41:04) The impact of modern addictions on society today (46:54) Habit change ideas and the role of struggle in a good life (52:11) How to know if you're becoming an addict (58:45) The effective and ethical way to address addiction (01:03:58) Workaholism as an addiction (01:20:13) The connection between shame and a “never enough” attitude towards work

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