# Trap, Neuter, Return: Compassion in Action

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Podcast: [Keep it Humane](https://stenobird.com/podcast/keep-it-humane-1179458)
Published: 2026-04-28T12:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Keep it Humane: The Podcast , we sit down with Deborah Felin McGaldi from Helen Sanders CatPAWS to talk all things cats, community, and compassion. Deborah shares how CatPAWS is transforming feline welfare in California through their trap-neuter-return (TNR) programs, low-cost spay/neuter clinic, kitten fostering network, and community outreach efforts across Southern California. We dive into the ethics and realities of TNR, including the often controversial topic of spay-abort procedures for pregnant feral cats, and discuss the legal challenges surrounding TNR practices in California. The impact of their work is undeniable—Deborah explains how their programs have helped reduce kitten euthanasia rates at local shelters from roughly 1,000 per year to around 100. We also talk about the barriers that keep people from fostering, from time commitments to financial concerns, and why community involvement is essential to saving more lives. If you care about cats, animal shelters, and practical solutions in animal welfare, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. 🐱

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