# In Our Minivan Era

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Podcast: [Karma & Chaos with Kail Lowry & Becky Hayter](https://stenobird.com/podcast/karma-chaos-with-kail-lowry-becky-hayter-1318482)
Published: 2026-07-14T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week a conversation about Texas tour plans turns into an emotional look at what family can really look like. Becky shares why her Fourth of July weekend with Becks' donor and his family meant more than she ever expected, and Kail gets honest about struggling to accept kindness, forgiveness, and the idea that she’s still worthy despite her past. Of course, it wouldn't be an episode of Karma and Chaos without some chaos from arguing over bowl plates, redesigning SUVs for moms, debating sleepover rules, and asking the question no one else apparently thought to ask: do people still use wooden ladders? Get your Fatherless Behaviour Tour Tickets here For full videos head to patreon.com/kaillowry   Follow Becky at Hayter25 and subscribe to For The Hayters Thank you for supporting the show by checking out our sponsors! Quince: Make your summer wardrobe feel easier. Go to quince.com/karma for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. RO: Sponsored by Ro.Go to ro.co/karma for your free insurance check. That’s ro.co/karma to see if your insurance covers GLP-1s for free. Tempo: Tempo is offering our listeners 60% your first box! Go to tempomeals.com/karma BetterHelp: Visit betterhelp.com/KARMA to get 10% off your first month. Shopify: Start your free trial at SHOPIFY.COM/karma See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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