# Fashion Pioneer Audrey Smaltz with Gail Marquis on Ambition and Lifelong Love (Part 2)

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Podcast: [Karen Hunter Is Awesome!](https://stenobird.com/podcast/karen-hunter-is-awesome-7113592)
Published: 2026-07-24T12:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 978

## Resource

Trailblazing fashion icon Audrey Smaltz and her partner, Gail Marquis, sit down with Karen to discuss Audrey's barrier-breaking career—from Harlem charm school and Wall Street to backstage runway management—alongside their 27-year love story.

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