# Break It Up: The Myth of American Unity (My Conversation with Richard Kreitner)

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Podcast: [Karen Hunter Is Awesome!](https://stenobird.com/podcast/karen-hunter-is-awesome-7113592)
Published: 2026-06-17T12:00:00+00:00
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Karen sits down with journalist and author Richard Kreitner to dismantle the myth of a historically unified United States, exploring how secession and deep divisions have shaped the country's landscape.

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