# The Third Path: Stay Engaged Without Burning Out | Tony Tenaglier | KAJ Masterclass

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Podcast: [KAJ Business & Money LIVE](https://stenobird.com/podcast/kaj-business-money-live-6950986)
Published: 2026-03-28T18:44:43+00:00
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## Resource

In this conversation, Tony Tenaglier challenges one of the most common assumptions about burnout—that it’s a personal failure.Instead, he reframes burnout as a design problem—shaped by how modern work is structured and how we relate to it.We explore why capable professionals feel disillusioned even when they’re successful on paper, the role of intrinsic motivation, and how the concept of flow can help redesign the workday.This is not about quitting your job or chasing passion.It’s about understanding work more clearly—and engaging with it more consciously.=========================================*KAJ Masterclass*A video-first, live-first global conversation platform — editorially independent and depth-driven. In-depth, unscripted conversations with thinkers, leaders, entrepreneurs, authors, and experts — exploring ideas, lived experience, and real-world wisdom. Hosted by Khudania Ajay (KAJ), independent journalist.🌐 https://www.kajmasterclass.com=========================================*Guest*Tony Tenaglier is the host of Work Sucks, But I Like It, a podcast examining meaning, burnout, and responsibility in modern work. Trained as a materials engineer, he has led in the aerospace investment casting industry and writes about work, systems, and human performance. With a background that bridges engineering, psychology, and leadership, Tony explores why capable professionals feel disillusioned—and how to reclaim agency without abandoning responsibility. He is also a columnist and author focused on the intersection of work, identity, and self-authorship.Connect: https://worksucksbutilikeit.com/=========================================*Host — Khudania Ajay (KAJ)*Independent journalist | 20+ years in media, leadership & storytelling | 2,500+ long-form conversations 🌐 http…

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