# S2EP11: "Children are Children," with Michael Pinard, Law Professor and Juvenile Justice Advocate Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/just-justice-7032206/s2ep11-children-are-children-with-michael-pinard-law-professor-and-juvenile-justice-advocate Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/just-justice-7032206/s2ep11-children-are-children-with-michael-pinard-law-professor-and-juvenile-justice-advocate.md Podcast: [Just Justice](https://stenobird.com/podcast/just-justice-7032206) Published: 2025-06-24T08:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://jessicahenryjustice.podbean.com/e/children-are-children-with-michael-pinard-law-professor-and-juvenile-justice-advocate/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/9d34cjtb89kcsvja/Just_Justice_Michael_Pinard8i0bh.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/just-justice-7032206/episodes/s2ep11-children-are-children-with-michael-pinard-law-professor-and-juvenile-justice-advocate Duration seconds: 2556 ## Resource Michael Pinard has devoted his entire career to advocating for children and fighting against the racial biases that often accompany their mistreatment in our legal systems. A former public defender turned law professor, Michael's work focuses on the intersection between race and the civil, criminal and juvenile justice systems. Michael is the faculty director of the Gibson-Banks Center for Race and the Law and director of the Clinical Law Program at the University of Maryland School of Law. He also is an old friend of mine, going way back to our days at NYU School of Law. If you care about children and justice, you won't want to miss this episode of Just Justice. To learn more about Michael Pinard's work, go to: https://www.law.umaryland.edu/faculty--research/directory/profile/index.php?id=093 To learn more about Jessica Henry, go to www.jessicahenryjustice.com ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/just-justice-7032206/episodes/s2ep11-children-are-children-with-michael-pinard-law-professor-and-juvenile-justice-advocate/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/just-justice-7032206/s2ep11-children-are-children-with-michael-pinard-law-professor-and-juvenile-justice-advocate.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.