# 187. The Courage to Change with Holly Wagner

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Podcast: [Joyce Meyer's Talk It Out Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/joyce-meyer-s-talk-it-out-podcast-472202)
Published: 2025-09-30T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://talkitout.libsyn.com/episode-187
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Duration seconds: 2780

## Resource

No matter where we are in life, change is the only constant—so how will we respond to it? Whether it's in your family, your job, your church, or your health (or any other number of factors!), we all have our own relationship with change, and this episode exists to help you make it better than ever. Join Joyce, Ginger, Erin, and Holly Wagner for a Girls' Night IN chat that will help you handle change with grace, keep growing, and find joy in each new season as it unfolds.

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