# Herdin' Around, with Kai Ryssdal

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Podcast: [Jordan, Jesse, GO!](https://stenobird.com/podcast/jordan-jesse-go-159912)
Published: 2026-05-28T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week, we’re joined by public radio host and journalist Kai Ryssdal for a conversation about referee culture, iguana inflation, Wile E. Coyote rules and regulations, and much more.

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