# #788: Build a Team or Be on a Team with Claire Gogan

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Podcast: [John Kitchens Coach Podcast Experience](https://stenobird.com/podcast/john-kitchens-coach-podcast-experience-5249454)
Published: 2026-06-07T19:45:00+00:00
Episode link: https://johnkitchenscoachpodcast.com/
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Episode Overview In this episode of the John Kitchens Coach Podcast Experience, John sits down with Claire Gogan, leader of one of Southwest Florida's fastest-growing real estate teams. Claire shares her journey from solo agent to leading a 45-agent organization, the painful lessons she learned along the way, and how agents can create leverage without sacrificing the life they're trying to build. Whether you're a solo agent considering your first hire or a team leader trying to scale without burning out, this conversation delivers practical insights on leadership, hiring, team structures, personal development, and building a business that supports your vision. In This Episode, You'll Learn: Why every successful agent eventually needs leverage The difference between building a high-paid job and building a true business How Claire transitioned from solo producer to leading a 45-agent team The three primary team models and who each one is best suited for Why hiring the right people matters more than hiring quickly How personality assessments can improve hiring decisions The role coaching played in Claire's growth journey Why conflict resolution is one of the most important leadership skills How to determine if you're meant to build a team—or simply build leverage The mindset shifts required to survive the difficult early stages of growth How AI is impacting team structure, leadership, and the future of real estate Key Takeaways Get Clear Before You Build Too many agents build businesses based on what they see others doing instead of what they actually want. Before choosing a team model, ask yourself: What kind of life do I want? Do I love selling? Do I enjoy leading people? Am I building freedom or creating another job? Clarity must come before growth. There Is More Than…

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