# S1E23 Good Company, Bad Company

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Podcast: [John Kiriakou's Dead Drop](https://stenobird.com/podcast/john-kiriakou-s-dead-drop-7529115)
Published: 2026-04-13T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/john-kiriakous-dead-drop/episodes/s1e23-good-company-bad-company
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## Resource

THE BLURB: John wasn't the only CIA officer who refused training in the CIA's new "enhanced interrogation" techniques - despite assurances from the CIA's legal team. This episode's guest, author and former CIA officer Glenn Carle spent two decades in the agency. Like John, Glenn broke with the CIA over the subject of torture. Glenn was part of a team interrogating another high value Al Qaeda target, and, like John, came to appreciate that torture was completely ineffectiv "The Interrogator" here e as a way to procure information from a detainee. SHOW NOTES You can learn more about Glenn's book "The Interrogator" here and you can purchase it here . For more great podcasts like Dead Drop, please visit https://costardandtouchstone.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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