# JdR Podcast 673 - Moving Beyond the Spin of Illusion

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Published: 2026-05-08T16:43:00+00:00
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## Resource

Amsterdam, The Netherlands Event - September 11, 2011 Afternoon. A question about heaven, hell and the soul begins a journey beyond everything you may have believed, into a tiny little bit of ground that you know is true. Dialogues with John de Ruiter bring you into your heart, and into the depths of your being, where the meaning of life opens up in awareness. For more information about John de Ruiter go to www.johnderuiter.com

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