# How China Is Using Iran | Michael Doran

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Published: 2026-07-31T07:02:30+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dual-citizens30/episodes/How-China-Is-Using-Iran--Michael-Doran-e3mpfqo
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## Resource

Geopolitical expert Michael Doran argues that Middle East stability depends on the U.S. winning its long war with Iran. He warns the “rabid dog” regime remains a paused but persistent danger.Doran also unpacks how China is using the Middle East as a laboratory to test how America defends against missiles and drones before any move on Taiwan. He warns that anti-ship ballistic missiles supplied to Iran and the Houthis exist for one purpose: sinking American aircraft carriers.Michael Doran is a Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute and director of its Center for Peace and Security in the Middle East. A former George W. Bush administration National Security Council director, he is the author of Ike's Gamble and a leading voice on Iran, Israel and U.S. strategy.

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