# #563 - Bret Contreras: How To "Make It" in the Fitness Industry (Then vs Now), The Key to LONGTERM Progress & More!

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Podcast: [Joe DeFranco's Industrial Strength Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/joe-defranco-s-industrial-strength-show-5341259)
Published: 2026-03-05T15:40:00+00:00
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## Resource

After 9 long years Bret Contreras, aka, "The Glute Guy" returns to the Industrial Strength Show...and he & Joe have a LOT to talk about! Here are a few of the topics you'll hear discussed during their 2-hour conversation: The early T-Nation days; How to "make it" in the fitness industry (Then vs Now); The wildly popular piece of equipment that Bret put in storage and Joe ended up selling; How Bret's training has evolved over the years; Finding your maximum recoverable volume (MRV); How glute training has evolved over the years; The mind-muscle connection vs progressive overload; The benefits of training w/ bands & chains; Training the "stretch" vs the "squeeze" positions; How to make longterm progress...And so much MORE! *For a full list of Show Notes + Timestamps visit www.IndustrialStrengthShow.com . IMPORTANT LINKS Bret Contreras BC Strength (Bret's products) DeFranco's Nutritional Supplements [coupon: MuscleUpMarch]

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