# Trump and Epstein: What the New York Times Revealed About Their Real Relationship (Part 1)

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Podcast: [Jeffrey Epstein:  The Coverup Chronicles](https://stenobird.com/podcast/jeffrey-epstein-the-coverup-chronicles-7243585)
Published: 2026-07-12T23:30:03+00:00
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## Resource

The New York Times has reported that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein shared a much closer relationship in the late 1980s through the 1990s and early 2000s than Trump has publicly acknowledged. According to the Times, Epstein described Trump as his “best friend,” and the two socialized frequently at parties, spoke often by phone, and were part of the same high-society circles, particularly bonding over women. Epstein’s former employees told the Times that Trump often discussed sex with him rather than business, and Epstein was described as Trump’s “most reliable wingman” in that era. While Trump has denied involvement in Epstein’s criminal conduct, the Times cited newly released emails and interviews suggesting Trump was aware of Epstein’s sexual abuse of girls, though no evidence has surfaced that Trump was directly involved in those crimes. The reporting also highlighted specific incidents and firsthand accounts that paint a picture of their social interactions: Epstein introduced several women to Trump, including at least one who was a minor at the time, and an email referenced Epstein “giving” Trump a 20-year-old woman. Former employees recounted Trump sending modeling cards to Epstein “like a menu,” and one woman’s story described Epstein directing her to social events where Trump was present. Although Trump and Epstein’s friendship reportedly soured by the mid-2000s, and Trump has repeatedly sought to distance himself from Epstein—saying they had a falling-out long before Epstein’s legal troubles—the Times reporting underscores a deeper and more personal connection than Trump has acknowledged. to contact me: bobbycapucci@protonmail.com source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html

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