# What do they have to gain from being willfully ignorant?

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Podcast: [James O'Brien - The Whole Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/james-o-brien-the-whole-show-449980)
Published: 2026-06-04T15:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/
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