# Episode 104: A Pair of Firecrackers, Two Great Guests, and the Intersection of Kirk, Kimmel, and Billy Joel

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Podcast: [James and Jeff present: Tales from the Phoenix Cigar Lounge](https://stenobird.com/podcast/james-and-jeff-present-tales-from-the-phoenix-cigar-lounge-7038627)
Published: 2025-10-29T01:30:00+00:00
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Joined by the always entertaining Silver Fox and his handler/better half, James Harold and Julian burn down a few different cigars and try to parse the entertainment world as it is currently and also looking back.

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